An old man used to drive and travel using the trunk roads to visit his relatives, his travel will take hours sometime take days. One day his younger relatives had a talk with him, they were told the younger generations are not so smart compared with him the older generations, but the younger generations are still thinking they are smarter than the older generations.
The old man said to the young, "You are not smart, you see our highs ways, and tolls were being collected from the users, this is wrong. The users had paid the cost in building the high way, we paid our income taxes. The income taxes are being used to pay the cost. But we are asked to pay the second time in the tolls. You young men think you are smart, you are not smart, you pay the cost of the high way twice, I will not pay the tolls, I will go and take the old trunk roads, the alternative roads" the old man drove his old Peugeot until he died travelling with it. He was happy with his old trunk road.
Young men, we think we are smarter than the people who wrote the "Apostle Creed" in the 3-4th century. Some of You wanted to invent another creed ? And you wanted to double crossed the Apostle Creed, and you wanted to put in this clause silently...
"I BELIEVE IN THE VERBAL PLENARY PRESEVATION OF THE KJV BIBLE !"
The Original Apostle Creed is like this.
I believe in God, the Father Almighty,
the Maker of heaven and earth,
and in Jesus Christ, His only Son, our Lord:
Who was conceived by the Holy Ghost,
born of the virgin Mary,
suffered under Pontius Pilate,
was crucified, dead, and buried;
He descended into hell.
The third day He arose again from the dead;
He ascended into heaven,
and sitteth on the right hand of God the Father Almighty;
from thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead.
I believe in the Holy Ghost;
the holy catholic church;
the communion of saints;
the forgiveness of sins;
the resurrection of the body;
and the life everlasting.
Amen.
The Theologians felt that the old creed is not complete, not so perfect, without the KJV and it's perfect TR...so in the year 2000-2008, they wanted to put another clause into the Apostle creed,
"I believe in the Verbal Plenary Preservation of....."
You will see this in the court room soon, they are fighting for this I think? This is new to us, but it is not smart! I rather stick to the Original Apostle Creed. I rather take the old trunks road !
Saturday, 28 February 2009
If you do not like to stay, go out!
You hear this solemnly in the Parliament,
You hear this being preached in some churches,
You hear this sometimes in ICCC,
You hear this a few times in a day...in our country!
Do not surprise...just stay put
One day, I met a church leader, telling me about a pastor,
this pastor said to his church, if he heard anyone who is gossiping about him, gossip behind him.
He will excommunicate that member from the church! Serious!
You hear this being preached in some churches,
You hear this sometimes in ICCC,
You hear this a few times in a day...in our country!
Do not surprise...just stay put
One day, I met a church leader, telling me about a pastor,
this pastor said to his church, if he heard anyone who is gossiping about him, gossip behind him.
He will excommunicate that member from the church! Serious!
Why BP churches split in these few years?
Why Bible Presbyterian churches split? Because of Bible version !
Some Churches now a day do not care much about what Bible versions you are using ! If you do not believe, do a survey, then you will know how important is Bible version.
Basically they stick to the simple Christianity, in God we trust.
Bible version is not the problem any longer ! Do not make this as a problem, do not make this as an excuse to split!
The charismatic has split the churches last decades, in the begining they said, "speaking in tongue" is a sign of a believer's salvation, they said if you do not speak in tongue, you are not saved....this was a serious mistake. Then they change their view about tongue...Then they say, "speaking in tongue" in a sign of the filling of the Holy Spirit, or the fullness of the Spirit...this was also another mistake, later they change their view again. Lastly some charismatic, see the tongue speaking is a spiritual gift, mainly for prayer. Some may speak, and some may not speak in tongue. Now they understand the Bible, not all speak in tongue! Even speak in tongue also must be controlled, 2 or 3 speak in church, not all together, now they understand the Bible better, before that they are carried away by emotions and feelings.
Now a day, charismatic churches see "tongue speaking is not a problem." Off course there are still some hard headed charismatic insisting "speaking in tongue" is a sign of salvation, but they are becoming lesser and lesser now a day. The charismatic had done many mistake in dealing with the tongue speaking issue, God still use them to revive many churches, to look seriously into the gifts, miracles and healings, even the Holy Spirit.
What about Bible Presbyterian churches in Singapore, they are doing the same mistake like the Charismatic, the BP churches are insisting, KJV is the best Bible version, the Greek and Hebrew text of the KJV is perfect without errors! This is a serious mistake, this will takes sometimes to be corrected. Unholy split among BP churches needs to be amended.
The BP is making mistake like the charismatic! I think both denomination do not learn the lessons from each other well enough! History repeat itself again last few years.
Because of so many splits among the churches, due to small fractions, small issues, lastly most churches, tired of these splits, now they start to understand the Bible better, that denomination is not an important issue any longer, many denominations have their distinctions and differences, but they do not see that a problem to split any longer.
That is why you hear some say "there is no absolute truth even in all the churches....no even one hold the perfect truth, each has it own strong and weak point" Now, a day, churches work together closer, without looking into the Bible versions, NIV or KJV or even its perfect Greek and Hebrew, tongue speaking, and denominations.
Do not speak of to put a person into court just because of a "Bible version choice"
Do not speak of to put a person into court just because of a "few missing words."
Do not speak of to put a person into custody just because of a ".................," you name it.
The Bible wants us to speak in love...
The Bible wants us to speak the truth in love...
The Bible wants us to speak ...................you name it.
The churces are too tired of splits! Let us rest in unity. Why not?
Why not stay in unity in ICCC, this is at least what we can do!
Why not stay together in peace in ICCC, this is at least we may look for in ICCC!
Why not ?
Some Churches now a day do not care much about what Bible versions you are using ! If you do not believe, do a survey, then you will know how important is Bible version.
Basically they stick to the simple Christianity, in God we trust.
Bible version is not the problem any longer ! Do not make this as a problem, do not make this as an excuse to split!
The charismatic has split the churches last decades, in the begining they said, "speaking in tongue" is a sign of a believer's salvation, they said if you do not speak in tongue, you are not saved....this was a serious mistake. Then they change their view about tongue...Then they say, "speaking in tongue" in a sign of the filling of the Holy Spirit, or the fullness of the Spirit...this was also another mistake, later they change their view again. Lastly some charismatic, see the tongue speaking is a spiritual gift, mainly for prayer. Some may speak, and some may not speak in tongue. Now they understand the Bible, not all speak in tongue! Even speak in tongue also must be controlled, 2 or 3 speak in church, not all together, now they understand the Bible better, before that they are carried away by emotions and feelings.
Now a day, charismatic churches see "tongue speaking is not a problem." Off course there are still some hard headed charismatic insisting "speaking in tongue" is a sign of salvation, but they are becoming lesser and lesser now a day. The charismatic had done many mistake in dealing with the tongue speaking issue, God still use them to revive many churches, to look seriously into the gifts, miracles and healings, even the Holy Spirit.
What about Bible Presbyterian churches in Singapore, they are doing the same mistake like the Charismatic, the BP churches are insisting, KJV is the best Bible version, the Greek and Hebrew text of the KJV is perfect without errors! This is a serious mistake, this will takes sometimes to be corrected. Unholy split among BP churches needs to be amended.
The BP is making mistake like the charismatic! I think both denomination do not learn the lessons from each other well enough! History repeat itself again last few years.
Because of so many splits among the churches, due to small fractions, small issues, lastly most churches, tired of these splits, now they start to understand the Bible better, that denomination is not an important issue any longer, many denominations have their distinctions and differences, but they do not see that a problem to split any longer.
That is why you hear some say "there is no absolute truth even in all the churches....no even one hold the perfect truth, each has it own strong and weak point" Now, a day, churches work together closer, without looking into the Bible versions, NIV or KJV or even its perfect Greek and Hebrew, tongue speaking, and denominations.
Do not speak of to put a person into court just because of a "Bible version choice"
Do not speak of to put a person into court just because of a "few missing words."
Do not speak of to put a person into custody just because of a ".................," you name it.
The Bible wants us to speak in love...
The Bible wants us to speak the truth in love...
The Bible wants us to speak ...................you name it.
The churces are too tired of splits! Let us rest in unity. Why not?
Why not stay in unity in ICCC, this is at least what we can do!
Why not stay together in peace in ICCC, this is at least we may look for in ICCC!
Why not ?
Acts 6:4
"...to pray and the ministry of the word..."(Acts 6:4)
Worship is our priority in ministry,
praying is the source of our strength,
Preaching is our lifestyles.
First declaration declared that worship God is a primary ministry....secondly praying is the way to receive power....and thidly, preaching the gospel is the way of life.
If you accept Verbal Plenary Preservation...that means you do not agree in all these declarations at all....Why? Because you are quarreling because of a few majority scripture texts...a few word are missing here and there, but you make it as big as a mountain issue...my dear...worship.....prayer and preaching the gospel, are more important than those few missing words!
Look at a bigger picture, do not burn the whole forest in order to cut down a tree!
....some BP churches are spliting, quarreling, you are internal focusing rather than external focusing for the 6 odds years...
if i can achieve this "SAVE ONE SOUL A YEAR!" .....
Worship is our priority in ministry,
praying is the source of our strength,
Preaching is our lifestyles.
First declaration declared that worship God is a primary ministry....secondly praying is the way to receive power....and thidly, preaching the gospel is the way of life.
If you accept Verbal Plenary Preservation...that means you do not agree in all these declarations at all....Why? Because you are quarreling because of a few majority scripture texts...a few word are missing here and there, but you make it as big as a mountain issue...my dear...worship.....prayer and preaching the gospel, are more important than those few missing words!
Look at a bigger picture, do not burn the whole forest in order to cut down a tree!
....some BP churches are spliting, quarreling, you are internal focusing rather than external focusing for the 6 odds years...
if i can achieve this "SAVE ONE SOUL A YEAR!" .....
Sathiya
sathiya is a tamil word, it means "truth"
sathiyum is another stronger word, the meaning is "I swear, or I take a oath to tell the truth.."
The Bible says, "The truth will set you free...Jesus Christ is the truth, the way and the life," (John 14:6)
sathiyum is another stronger word, the meaning is "I swear, or I take a oath to tell the truth.."
The Bible says, "The truth will set you free...Jesus Christ is the truth, the way and the life," (John 14:6)
Friday, 27 February 2009
Coffee, ...Mocha!
Some one say when we take in coffee, like 7 cups a day, there is more changes we hear voices, sees shadows and ghosts. It is true?
Next is malaysia
Indonesia..., China..., India...., next is Malaysia...
Oh our God the Heavenly Father, the people called You, God as "אללה"
but the evil wicked men and women had misused the name of God's Son, Jesus Christ,
They used the term "ISA" to disturb the people, ISA is the name of God's Son,
Jesus Christ is called, Isa Al Masih, or Isa Al Maseh, in Malay and Indonesia, let this evil wicked kingdom be destroyed, and let the good kingdom arise!
Bring back hope and justice to the new kingdom. Bring back the country to the the people, Let the Malay, Chinese, Indian and the natives live together, Oh our God Almighty...Fight for us these days until to the end....Let the darkness and its kingdom be destroyed...So that the land will be renewed and freed, bring back the law to us, please pray for Malaysia...
Oh our God the Heavenly Father, the people called You, God as "אללה"
but the evil wicked men and women had misused the name of God's Son, Jesus Christ,
They used the term "ISA" to disturb the people, ISA is the name of God's Son,
Jesus Christ is called, Isa Al Masih, or Isa Al Maseh, in Malay and Indonesia, let this evil wicked kingdom be destroyed, and let the good kingdom arise!
Bring back hope and justice to the new kingdom. Bring back the country to the the people, Let the Malay, Chinese, Indian and the natives live together, Oh our God Almighty...Fight for us these days until to the end....Let the darkness and its kingdom be destroyed...So that the land will be renewed and freed, bring back the law to us, please pray for Malaysia...
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